Location : not quite gone Joined : 08 Dec '04 Moves : 15961 |  28 Apr '06 23:04 White to move
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Location : not quite gone Joined : 08 Dec '04 Moves : 15961 | 28 Apr '06 23:34 Originally posted by Coconut
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Nb7 Knights don't make an L that tall |
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ChessObsessed Location : Earth Joined : 07 Mar '05 Moves : 11135 | 28 Apr '06 23:39 :: 1 edit Originally posted by Wulebgr
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[fen]r3kb1r/p1B2ppp/P1p1p1n1/1p6/N7/8/1PP2PPP/R2R2K1 w - -[/fen]
from Somkin — Vinogradov, Chelyabinsk 2005 nb6 pxn a7 with the idea of Bb8 |
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Location : not quite gone Joined : 08 Dec '04 Moves : 15961 | 28 Apr '06 23:41 Originally posted by Grandmouster
nb6 pxn a7 with the idea of Bb8 What does Bb8 accomplish? |
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9 Edits Location : London Joined : 28 Sep '04 Moves : 96053 | 28 Apr '06 23:42 :: 1 edit Originally posted by Wulebgr
What does Bb8 accomplish? It looks like it blocks off the rook so it can't move anywhere. |
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Location : not quite gone Joined : 08 Dec '04 Moves : 15961 | 28 Apr '06 23:43 Originally posted by Freddie2006
It looks like it blocks off the rook so it can't move anywhere. Is that worth a knight? |
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ChessObsessed Location : Earth Joined : 07 Mar '05 Moves : 11135 | 28 Apr '06 23:43 :: 1 edit Originally posted by Wulebgr
What does Bb8 accomplish? maybe nothing, i was thinking of a long range plan of doubling the rooks, but that might be too slow.
Got me here. If its not a sac, then look for a way to double on the open file |
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Joined : 17 May '05 Moves : 6676 | 28 Apr '06 23:44 simple
Nb6 axb6, Rd8ch Rxd8, Bxd8 Kxd8, a7 the pawn queens. |
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ChessObsessed Location : Earth Joined : 07 Mar '05 Moves : 11135 | 28 Apr '06 23:45 Originally posted by Grandmouster
maybe nothing, i was thinking of a long range plan of doubling the rooks, but that might be too slow.
Got me here. If its not a sac, then look for a way to double on the open file i get it, nb6 pxn, a7, then rd8+ then queen |
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Losing the Thread Location : g8 Joined : 27 Oct '04 Moves : 52409 | 28 Apr '06 23:45 It's simple: 1. Nb6 axb6 2. Rd8+ Rxd8 3. Bxd8 and black has no way of stopping the pawn. |
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Missing 285 + 1 Location : On a ship of fools Joined : 26 May '04 Moves : 25096 | 28 Apr '06 23:55 :: 1 edit Hang on... Black can't stop the pawn queening, but doesn't moving the king off the back row mean Black can kill the queen immediately?
EDIT: No. Sorry. Can't move King AND Bishop in one move. Is it any wonder I'm making such pathetic mistakes in my own games at the moment? |
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Location : not quite gone Joined : 08 Dec '04 Moves : 15961 | 28 Apr '06 23:56 Originally posted by Regicidal
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Nb6 axb6, Rd8ch Rxd8, Bxd8 Kxd8, a7 the pawn queens. That's the given solution, but what if black does not grab the knight? For example, 1.Nb6 Bc5. |
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Joined : 17 May '05 Moves : 6676 | 29 Apr '06 00:02 Originally posted by Wulebgr
That's the given solution, but what if black does not grab the knight? For example, 1.Nb6 Bc5. Nxa8 wins the exchange comes first to mind. |
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Losing the Thread Location : g8 Joined : 27 Oct '04 Moves : 52409 | 29 Apr '06 00:02 :: 10 edits Originally posted by Wulebgr
That's the given solution, but what if black does not grab the knight? For example, 1.Nb6 Bc5. Nxa8
edit: drat, too slowagain...
edit 3: after Nxa8, 0-0 (what else?) white can play Rd8 to keep hold of the knight.
edit 4: although Be7 from black (rather than Bc5) cuts that out. |
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