I’ve always referred to federal income tax, not tax on a can of coke. And thanks for ‘quote’ button I’m new
Free College. Free Healthcare. You should watch Fox more often. Don’t you think that if one gets all that from govt (the govt has no money) that, in fact, you and I are paying for it. Thus if I am paying for the education and health care of a family with six ...[text shortened]...
Isn’t it amazing in debates such as this that we both truly believe in our opposing arguments?
"I’ve always referred to federal income tax,"
what you meant and what you actually said are two different things but at least we've cleared that.
"Don’t you think that if one gets all that from govt (the govt has no money) that, in fact, you and I are paying for it."
I am certain "you and I" are paying for it. Just like the healthy are paying for the sick. It's a good thing. It benefits society if people who are capable get educated. It benefits society that poor people can afford to get regular checkups and catch that cancer early.
"Thus if I am paying for the education and health care of a family with six kids ( I have NO kids), then that means these people are figuratively at my door getting my money"
You can look at it however you want. I choose to look at it as investing in a better society. The kid that you pay a portion of college tuition for might get a good job in the future and he won't become the adult you pay unemployment or welfare for.
"I was going to use that money to adopt 3 beautiful children who barely escaped abortion."
First of all, no you weren't. Second of all, you won't raise 3 beautiful children on the 3-4$ you contributed to that guy's tuition (your taxes don't go to just that guy's college tuition they fund a lot of other projects). Third, you already decided it's ok to pay for another jet and tank for the deadliest military in human history. Fourth, you are paying for the healthcare of mitch mcconnell but you can't pay for the healthcare of a 26 year old suffering from diabetes so he doesn't die?
"And as to the Flint, that is what government does. Throw those criminals in jail with Hillary, I’m glad to spend my tax money on those matters, and walls."
In order to 'throw those criminals in jail" you need to have regulations and wilingness to enforce them. So thank you for agreeing that some regulations are needed.
"Do you know the libs want the govt (you and me) to provide ‘free’ birth control so losers can have recreational sex? "
Yes, i do. And that's a good thing. You pay 1 cent to provide free birth control so you don't have to pay 1 dollar so the mother of 5 gets an abortion for number 6 so you don't have to pay 100$ for that child's healthcare and potentially, later, his unemployment check.
You can't stop people having sex. Since you can't do that, you might want to figure out what would be the next best thing. You can refuse to pay for their birth control and teach them a lesson, then in a couple years you get mugged by the father (or the mother, #womencanbemuggerstoo) of that child because they can't afford to feed it.
"Do you like that furtherance of freedom infringement?"
I do. I much rather pay for someone to have safe sex than pay for another tank for the military.
"Isn’t it amazing in debates such as this that we both truly believe in our opposing arguments?"
Neah, it's just not clear yet to you what i actually stand for.
you, and many other conservatives, are dealing in absolutes. FREEDOM is something black and white, you are either completely free or you're a slave. Taxes are bad! You hear something is being bought with tax money and you feel as if you were the one paying for it when in reality it was millions of other americans.
Real world doesn't work that way. There are some things that don't revolve around individuals. Roads cannot be built by individuals so the society as a group builds them. An individual cannot go to college or afford insulin because someone decided arbitrarily that those cost "this many money" so the society as a group should (in my view) 1. change that arbitrary cost to some other, lower arbitrary cost 2. Decide if they want someone with the potential of being a great doctor to be trained to be a great doctor or thrown into the workforce to be a mediocre burger flipper. Decide if they want a 26 year old with the potential of being an upstanding taxpayer until his 70's or that he should die at 26 because he couldn't afford insulin, something he needs to survive and costs several times less everywhere else in the civilized world.